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The Story of Raymond DAMADIAN ** The Story of Independent Scientist Dr. Raymond DAMADIAN and a bite of imagination around the MRI (Magnetic Resonance Imaging) ** - Imagination? - Truth dear!.. Something ridiculous, beyond glamorous!.. This is a brand new RIDICULOUS FRAUD of the ZIONIST COMMITTEE MEMBERS; NOBEL PRIZE in MEDICINE (dis)MISSED the TRUE SCIENTIST!.. Sure, this is a true story of dismissed Scientist Raymond Damadian. Big shame, calls as "NPR case", too, I don't know why.. - Tv documentary team exposes today this clip; Shameful Prize Scandal, Nobel 2003 in Medicine... - Folk says that wrong persons awarded!... Nobel committee members drank so much, this time... - Scandinavia is famous as drug paradise by official figures... - Frankly thus shurk committee's corrupted friends prized; also, foxies Paul Laterbur&Peter Mansfield... - Let's watch this interesting tv clip!.. ** - Nobel prize winners announced... - The Nobel prize winners were announced recently, and not for the first time there has been some controversary involved . Both the prize for Medicine and for Physics were awarded for contributions to the development of Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI). Paul Laterbur, and Peter Mansfield, were awarded the prize for Medicine, while the prize for Physics went to Vitaly Ginsburg, Alexei Abrikosov and Anthony Leggett. But a US researcher claims "the Nobel committee is rewriting history" - Nobel Prize in Medicine Contested and GeoGreg reporteed; "The AP is reporting that Dr. Raymond Damadian is asking the Nobel committee to add him to the list of recipients of this year's prize in medicine. His company claims that he made the key discovery leading to MRI, and that the two recipients (Paul Laterbur and Peter Mansfield) made technological improvements. This link indicates that Damadian showed that magnetic resonance could distinguish between types of tissue, while Laterbur and Mansfield showed that images could be formed using magnetic resonance." - But the truth was little different... Committee stink this time, very ugly... - Well, I've got to say that from that summary, it does sound as if he has been overlooked and deserves to be recognised. - If he's been overlooked, that's too bad, and maybe the Nobel Committee screwed up. But they're not going to change their minds, and by whining about it, he just makes himself look bitter. He's exactly right -- they are "above the law and accountable to no one." And that means they can give their prize to whomever they damn well choose. Right now, even though there are other awards that have a higher monetary value, the Nobel is the most prestigious because of its name and history. If they have a few spectacular screwups, maybe that won't be the case any more, and Damadian will be vindicated. But that's history's judgement to make. - I agree. It's their choice, and it's their right to say "Sorry". And I'm glad that the Nobel commite isn't in the US or they'd probably be sued every year. That said, I still think is sounds like he deserves to be recognised. Just a simple "he helped", "he contributed", or the guys who got it could say "we couldn't have done it if we didn't know what he found out". But I agree, they shouldn't be forced to give the prize to him too or anything. - I heard an interview on NPR with one of the scientists who DID win, and either he or the reporter noted that one of the things that had held up the awarding of a prize for MRI for many years was the dispute over whether this third guy got included or not. I didn't get any impression from the scientist that he particularly cared. Which means that it was up to the Nobel committee, and they made their decision after apparently looking at the question of whether he should be included or not many times over the last decade or more. That said, I suspect that the committee believes they made the right decision. The fact that this guy is coming back with sour grapes now sure doesn't seem very professional. - The other way the story is being told is that the guy wouldn't accept if Dr D was on it too. They had a long and bitter fight over priority which Dr D won. - The Nobel prize committee can only choose between those people who are noiminated, they can't nominate people themselves. So he shouldn't bitch to the Nobel committee that they didn't choose him -- they didn't have the option to. He should be bitching to the people who didn't nominate him with the others. In either case, bitching and whining about not wining a prize is bad form. (I know a similar case where someone's collaborators won the Nobel, but he wasn't nominated. He wasn't happy about it, but his reaction was more "oh well".) - I agree. It's their choice, and it's their right to say "Sorry". And I'm glad that the Nobel commite isn't in the US or they'd probably be sued every year. That said, I still think is sounds like he deserves to be recognised. Just a simple "he helped", "he contributed", or the guys who got it could say "we couldn't have done it if we didn't know what he found out". But I agree, they shouldn't be forced to give the prize to him too or anything. - I heard an interview on NPR with one of the scientists who DID win, and either he or the reporter noted that one of the things that had held up the awarding of a prize for MRI for many years was the dispute over whether this third guy got included or not. I didn't get any impression from the scientist that he particularly cared. Which means that it was up to the Nobel committee, and they made their decision after apparently looking at the question of whether he should be included or not many times over the last decade or more. That said, I suspect that the committee believes they made the right decision. The fact that this guy is coming back with sour grapes now sure doesn't seem very professional. - If he's been overlooked, that's too bad, and maybe the Nobel Committee screwed up. But they're not going to change their minds, and by whining about it, he just makes himself look bitter. He's exactly right -- they are "above the law and accountable to no one." And that means they can give their prize to whomever they damn well choose. Right now, even though there are other awards that have a higher monetary value, the Nobel is the most prestigious because of its name and history. If they have a few spectacular screwups, maybe that won't be the case any more, and Damadian will be vindicated. But that's history's judgement to make. - It's ludicrous to think that the nobel committee would give the award to an avowed creationist. it really doesn't matter that he invented the process. to give this man a nobel would bring the prize into disrepute. - Oh, christ, get over over the whole creationist thing already. It's one of those beliefs that people don't just change, so there's no point in berating them about it. The fact that he's a creationist (which I haven't even checked for validity) has nothing to do with whether or not he invented the MRI idea. - What on earth makes you think that a person's religious beliefs have anything at all to do with whether or not they are eligible for the Nobel Prize? "Oh, I'm sorry, you believe in Thor, so we can't possible give you this honor, but we would have given it to you if you didn't... I don't suppose you could stop believing in him for a couple of weeks, could you?" - Would you give a prestigious scientific award to, say, a chemist who believed the world was flat and the heavenly bodies rotated around it, regardless of his contributions to chemistry? - They gave one to a guy who's best friend was a firment of his imagination [abeautifulmind.com], didn't they? If Watson & Crick had believed the world sat on the back of a giant turtle, they still discovered DNA, and that's still a Nobel-worthy achievement. For pete's sake, Alfred Nobel himself believed that if he created a destructive enough weapon, it would end mankind's penchant for war. Ergo, the Nobel Prize signifies ACHIEVEMENT, not BELIEF. - Wasn't that schizophrenia? Creation science is a willing belief. I may think people who go all out to prove dinosaurs are just a 'mystery' put down by God are a little bit nuts, but it's not a mental illness. - Anyone who thinks anything is put on earth as just a 'mystery' is a bit silly.. Even the Church goers I'm friends with believe everything has a place and a reason, but anyway... If you're taught something is true from birth.. and you actually feel bound to it for the rest of your life, how is that different? I mean, most Christians I know don't go oh.. I have no idea if God is real, but I'm going to believe in him anyway. Being religious or not is not as simple as deciding whether you'd rather have a car or a truck. This is something embedded in their mind their entire life. They feel it is true with all their heart, and it has absolutely nothing to do with their achievements.. - In some cases, yes it is. Overall though, I don't think so, but even if you could say that.. What does a fixation with seeking identity have to do with science? - It's a lot like being gay, isn't it. I mean that deep need to join in the Christian thing. It's like a deep seated fixation with seeking identity. Don't you think. - In some cases, yes it is. Overall though, I don't think so, but even if you could say that.. What does a fixation with seeking identity have to do with science? ** - U.S. doctor makes rare protest over Nobel prize, reports tv redaction on 10 october 2003. Reuters referred... A U.S. doctor who owns a patent on magnetic resonance imaging machines has made a rare public denouncement of the Nobel Prize for Medicine committee, saying it explicitly omitted him from Monday's shared award. In a full page advertisement in The New York Times on Friday and The Washington Post on Thursday, Raymond Damadian, president and founder of Fonar Corp., described the prize as "The Shameful Wrong That Must Be Righted." The advertisement said that the two men who won the Nobel, Paul C. Lauterbur of the University of Illinois and Sir Peter Mansfield of the University of Nottingham, England, made technological improvements based on Damadian's work. "When the announcement came out, my reaction was that I had been robbed of 33 years of my identity," Damadian, 67, told Reuters in a telephone interview. "The Nobel committee is rewriting history and is engaged in a revision of history." Damadian discovered in 1970 that differences between cancerous tissue and normal tissue could be seen using nuclear magnetic resonance, a precursor to MRI technology. His Melville, New York-based company makes and designs MRI scanners that allow patients to stand up during the procedure. Jealousy and complaints over Nobel laureates named in Sweden and Norway every October are common, but public displays of disappointment and criticism such as Damadian's are not. In Stockholm, Hans Jornvall, secretary of the Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet, which picks the winner in medicine, said he was convinced the award was correct and added that a Nobel prize could not be appealed. "This is the first time I have heard of somebody taking out an advertisement," Jornvall said. "Science is my lfe. I would like it always to be happy but this situation is clearly not happy." - "DISREGARD FOR TRUTH", folk says... - It's true!.. Damadian said that aside from his personal grievance, he believed the Nobel committee had shown "wanton disregard for the truth" over the years. He accused the panel of deliberately excluding him from the award worth $1.3 million. "They did what they did fully knowing the evil of what they were doing. They have a place for three awardees and they had to go out of their way to explicitly exclude me." The newspaper advertisement, which includes an inverted Nobel medal, quote Damadian's colleagues and several authors of books about MRI technology. "The reason that we are so disappointed and even angry is because the work was done here at this institution, at this medical school," said Dr. Eugene Feigelson, dean of the State University of New York college of medicine on Long Island, where Damadian is on staff. "All of the development on MRI -- and by the way this is not in any way meant to take anything away from Professor Lauterbur and Professor Mansfield -- but all of MRI rests on the fundamental work that Dr. Damadian has done here," Feigelson said in a telephone interview. The Washington Post said in a separate news article on Friday that the advertisement cost about $80,000. The New York Times ad cost about $122,000, according to its posted rates. Damadian received the National Medal of Technology in 1988 from President Ronald Reagan and he was inducted into the Inventors Hall of Fame in 1989. His first patent based on his 1970 discovery, was affirmed by the U.S. Supreme Court in 1997. - Additional reporting by Maggie Fox in Washington and Patrick McLoughlin in Stockholm - Welcome!.. ** - Do we see other newspapers? - Here!.. Los Angeles Times and Thomas H. Maugh II and Charles Piller wrote on Oct. 11, 2003: Scientist buying ads to protest MRI Nobel... MRI prize is his by right, he says... In an unusual public protest, a New York scientist placed full-page ads in at least three major newspapers, claiming he was unfairly denied the Nobel Prize in physiology or medicine, which was awarded to two other scientists for the invention of magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI. The ads, totaling an estimated $290,000 in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times and the Washington Post, claimed that the actual inventor of MRI was Dr. Raymond Damadian, president and founder of Fonar Corp. on Long Island, N.Y. The Nobel Prize was awarded Monday to Paul Lauterbur of the University of Illinois and Sir Peter Mansfield of the University of Nottingham in England, whose contributions to MRI development are widely acknowledged. The ads, paid for by Fonar, claimed that the Nobel committee was "revising history" by failing to acknowledge Damadian's role in developing the technology, which is now extensively used for imaging internal organs for diagnosing disease. The ads, which appeared Thursday in the Post and Friday in the other newspapers, claimed that Damadian made the "breakthrough" that led to MRI and that the Nobel committee "did one thing it had no right to do: It ignored the truth." But other scientists believe Damadian's claim is groundless. "Most of us in the field would clearly think (the Nobel committee) got it right this time," said Dr. E. James Potchen, a radiologist at Michigan State University. "It was a wise, conscientious decision." Lauterbur could not be reached for comment, but his wife said that he preferred not to discuss Damadian's claims. Mansfield also could not be reached for comment. The ad featured an upside down photo of the Nobel medal and was headlined, "A Shameful Wrong that Must Be Righted." Up until the 1970s, magnetic resonance, then called nuclear magnetic resonance, was a tool of chemists to deduce structure of organic molecules. Damadian, 67, made a key contribution in the field. In 1971, he reported in the journal Science that the radio signals emitted by cancerous tissue were different from those emitted by healthy tissues. Damadian envisioned an MRI scanner that would take pictures of the body's interior, drew up plans for constructing such a machine and received several patents. There was only one problem, Bottomley and other experts said: Damadian was never able to use his idea to produce actual images. ** - Scientists in the MRI community are not totally surprised by Damadian's protest. Some said Damadian has always been bold in seeking ... - You mean? - Not me, Washington Post redacteur... - Show me it, please!... - Welcome: In a Funk Over the No-Nobel Prize Overlooked MRI Pioneer Lobbies Against Decision By David Montgomery Washington Post Staff Writer Friday, October 10, 2003; Page C01 As the Nobels have been unveiled all week, reporters have been calling up laureates every day and asking where they were when they heard the news, and how does it feel to be a winner. But what about the losers? Where were they and how did it feel? Raymond Damadian was at his computer at home on Long Island at 5:30 Monday morning, logging on to the Nobel Foundation Web site. This was the precise moment when the prize for medicine was to be announced. And there it was: He immediately saw that the work being honored was magnetic resonance imaging -- MRI -- his field! He knew from colleagues that he had been nominated for the prize this year, and several previous years. He checked the names of the winners. "I went from my computer into my bedroom," Damadian said yesterday. "My wife said, 'What happened?' I said they gave it to [Paul C.] Lauterbur and [Sir Peter] Mansfield and they left me out." How did that moment feel? A pause. "Agony," he recalled. "I know the outcome of this is to be written out of history altogether." He tuned out the inevitable media reports of Lauterbur and Mansfield savoring their own personal leaps into history. "It was too much for me to bear." But unlike most Nobel also-rans, Damadian is not giving up so easily. Yesterday his MRI manufacturing company on Long Island, Fonar Corp., took out a full-page ad in The Washington Post headlined "The Shameful Wrong That Must Be Righted." It quoted scientists saying he was robbed. It quoted textbooks attesting to his contribution to the now ubiquitous technology -- 60 million MRI exams were given last year -- that employs high-powered magnets and radio waves to produce images of soft tissue inside the body that once was invisible to doctors unless they cut open the patient. The ad charged that "inexcusable disregard for the truth has led the [Nobel] committee to make a decision that is simply outrageous," and it provided a clip-out form for supporters to mail protests directly to the Nobel arbiters in Stockholm. Such ads in the Post typically cost just over $80,000, and Damadian said he will place more in other newspapers. It's one physician-inventor's campaign to get his name added to the award for medicine before it is officially presented later this year. "I know that had I never been born, there would be no MRI today," Damadian said. Nobel selections often result in jealousy and hurt feelings, but a public crusade is rare. "Usually they don't advertise and usually they don't ask everyone to write us," said Hans Jornvall, secretary of the 50-member Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet, which picks the winner in medicine, speaking from Sweden. He said Nobel officials never comment on Nobel Prize losers. "To us," he said, "mankind is divided into two groups of people: those who have got the award and those who have still not got it. . . . The ones who have still not got it we don't say anything about." Of those who got it, Lauterbur -- at University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign -- and Mansfield -- at the University of Nottingham -- Jornvall said: "We think they are excellent laureates." The Nobel Assembly's statement on the winners said Lauterbur and Mansfield "made seminal discoveries" that "led to the development of modern magnetic resonance imaging, MRI, which represents a breakthrough in medical diagnostics and research." Scientists in the MRI community are not totally surprised by Damadian's protest. Some said Damadian has always been bold in seeking recognition and has pined for a Nobel Prize. But there are varying views in the scientific community about the proper distribution of credit for developing MRI. "We are perplexed, disappointed and angry about the incomprehensible exclusion" of Damadian from the prize, said Eugene Feigelson, dean of the college of medicine at SUNY Downstate Medical Center, where Damadian did his work related to MRI. "MRI's entire development rests on the shoulders of Damadian's discovery. . . . " Damadian's discovery, beginning with experiments in 1969, was that cancerous and normal tissue could be distinguished using a precursor technology then known as nuclear magnetic resonance. In 1977 he developed a scanning machine, called "Indomitable," now owned by the Smithsonian National Museum of American History and on loan to an inventors' hall of fame in Ohio. Working separately in subsequent years, Lauterbur and Mansfield developed more sophisticated methods to capture images of tissue that were clearer, quicker and easier to use. "In my opinion, Paul Lauterbur and Peter Mansfield deserve the Nobel Prize," said Alex Pines, an expert in nuclear magnetic resonance at the University of California at Berkeley. "In a leap of creative genius, they came up with the gradient imaging methodology that forms the basis for what today is known as MRI." Damadian's camp characterizes Lauterbur's and Mansfield's work as technological refinements of Damadian's central insight, while the Nobel Assembly and other scientists say Lauterbur's and Mansfield's breakthroughs were "discoveries" in their own right. The documentation that the assembly used to choose Lauterbur and Mansfield -- and exclude anyone else -- will remain secret for 50 years, under Nobel rules, Jornvall said. Mansfield could not be reached for comment, and Lauterbur said through his wife that he preferred not to comment on Damadian's claims. Damadian, 67, grew up in Queens and became a varsity tennis player and an accomplished violinist before getting a medical degree. When he was a boy, his grandmother was dying of cancer in the family's home, and her moans kept him awake at night. Later, as a specialist in internal medicine, he was frustrated that patients could have cancers that were undetectable -- and, doing research with mouse tumors and magnets, he hit on his big idea. He knows his campaign to get a Nobel this year may be a long shot. Once winners have been announced, the assembly never changes its mind, according to Jornvall. But Damadian says the battle is bigger than he is. In his view, the Nobel Assembly has become the great arbiter of who goes down in the annals of medicine -- yet its judgments are accountable to no one and not subject to appeal. His campaign is on behalf of all the losers history might forget. Staff writer Rick Weiss contributed to this report ** - Christian Monitor issues publishing very sharp critics against the Scandinavian Zionist lobbies..Christians show solidarity by the side of Damadian and publishing interesting discussons... - Read us an example, please? - Did Nobel Committee Ignore MRI Creator Because of Creationism?, redaction of Christian Today asks.. And headed an article: "The faith-based initiative hold-up, freedom to worship at home, and other stories from online sources around the world.", compiled by Ted Olsen on 10/10/2003: Not everybody on the Nobel Committee loves Raymond Damadian While today's Nobel Peace Prize announcement will no doubt reignite discussion over whether Islam is a religion of peace, and may cause some to ask what happened to the buzz that Pope John Paul II would win, others are still discussing the controversy over this year's Nobel Prize in medicine. The Nobel Committee on Monday announced that the prize would be awarded to Paul C. Lauterbur and Peter Mansfield, for their discoveries concerning magnetic resonance imaging, or MRI scans. But when you ask Google who invented the MRI, the most common answer is Raymond V. Damadian. What's up? The controversy has been percolating, and The Wall Street Journal reported last year that "a ferocious battle in the scientific community over who gets credit" probably held up an MRI-related Nobel for years. A full-page ad in yesterday's The Washington Post said the Nobel committee was "attempting to rewrite history" and "did one thing it has no right to do: It ignored the truth." Likewise, Damadian told Newsday, "I can't escape the fact that I started it all. … My concern is the distortion by the Nobel Committee to write me out of the history of the MRI. Every history book from now on will say the MRI is Lauterbur and Mansfield." "I know that had I never been born, there would be no MRI today," he told The Washington Post. Many scientists agree, but some suggest that Damadian's self-promotion may have hurt him. He's "sometimes flamboyant," NPR science correspondent Richard Knox told All Things Considered yesterday. But Knox, along with Reason magazine's Ronald Bailey, suggested another reason Damadian may have been disregarded: He's a devout Christian (see this 1997 profile in Christianity Today sister publication Christian Reader) who believes in creationism. In fact, he's on the Technical Advisory Board for the Institute for Creation Research, and on the reference board for Answers in Genesis's upcoming Creation Museum. "He's identified by many web sites as a prominent creation scientist," Knox said. "I have no first-hand knowledge of his beliefs, but it's fair to say that most scientists are not creationists and tend to look askance at scientists who believe that way, but it's really impossible to know if the Nobel Committee took that into account." Bailey similarly writes, "I have no inside information, but I wonder if the committee was swayed by the fact that Damadian, although a brilliant inventor, is apparently a creation science nut. In ironic contrast, Lauterbur's current research is on the chemical origins of life." The Nobel Committee, meanwhile, says it doesn't talk about why certain people don't receive the prizes. It only talks about why winners do. Watch this space Lots of links below, but come back this afternoon for even more, along with fresh news and commentary. It's a busy religion news day, so we couldn't fit it all in this morning. ** - What are the students talking on this scandal? - Very interesting thoughts... Listen to this record, please!.. - This is Shocking...Just Shocking... A doctor is accusing a Nobel Prize Committee of a "wanton disregard for the truth." Dr. Raymond Damadian took out a full page ad in both "The New York Times" and "The Washington Post" complaining he should have shared in the Nobel Prize for Medicine. This year's prize went to two men for their work on MRI technology. Dr. Damadian says their work was based on his research and he should have been named an awardee as well. Damadian discovered in 1970 that differences between cancerous tissue and normal tissue could be seen using nuclear magnetic resonance, a precursor to MRI technology. The secretary of the Nobel Assembly believes the award is correct, and says Nobel prizes can't be appealed. You mean the same group that has given a Nobel Peace Prize to Yasser Arafat. The same group that gave extra points for a peace prize to Pope John Paul II only after he came out against the war in Iraq? I'm shocked that these people would have a wonton disregard for the truth. That couldn't happen, could it? - Damn Nobel hypocrisy!.. ** - Read the petitions examples, too.. Not only today's!.. Begin with 80s, 90s, look at this headline, for example; "evolution-based humanistic education system"... - Who demands such dangerous matters in "our US"? - Guess!.. ** - There are Scientists and the Newsmakers on the Scientical issues.. It's not the same matter.. - Okay!.. What is the comments of Science-news-makers front? - I read the news on 9 october 2003; one of the biggest monitor reports: Damadian gets upset about the Nobel... As I predicted the other day, it didn't take long for Raymond Damadian to get very upset about not being awarded the Nobel Prize. Today's Washington Post had a full-page advertisement claiming Damadian should have been awarded the prize and included a cut-out form to send to the Nobel committee. I don't think the advertisement really helped his case. Presumably it is not a good idea to try to influence the austere, traditional and serious Nobel committee by proclaiming loudly that they screwed up in a major way. "You suck! Now honour me!" is rarely an effective strategy. And yet, there are many Damadian supporters out there. Some of them were quoted in the newspaper advertisement. However, I have been speaking with many scientists about this over the past few days and the matter is definitely not as simple as Damadian claims. Perhaps it will be impossible to ever get to the bottom of this, but we can be pretty sure that the Nobel committee tried it's best to do so. (We'll find out in 2053 when the files become public.) A few people rose up to defend Damadian in the comments of my post below and I reprint one of them and my response here. From comments to my post: "Damadian had some ideas that were interesting but wrong, ..." Hello? Damadian made the only actual "discovery" in among Lauterbur, Mansfield and himself. NMR and T1/T2 lay in the hands of physicists and chemists for 40 years and no one ever even remotely thought of using this for medical purposes. Until Damadian, as an MD and scientist, discovered that T1/T2 are different for different tissues and that cancerous tissue emits different signals than healthy tissue of the same organ. He got ridiculed alot for suggesting a whole body scanner. Scientists with physics and chemistry background asked him how fast he intends to spin his patients (alluding to the dato common technique for NMR signal measurement). THIS discovery of T1/T2 in tissue is what the Nobel prize should have gone to. Alfred Nobel explicitly required that the Nobel prize in Medicine go to a discovery! The prize for physics can go to a discovery or invention, in Chemistry for a discovery or a process ... Moreover, Damadian clearly set the vision by patenting a decive for detecting cancer. Taking the signals and drawing them on a piece of paper (and doing it quickly and efficiently) was Lauterbur's achievement. Yet, as Damadian once said, if he hadn't been, would we have MRI today? He (and I concur) doesn't think so. If Lauterbur hadn't been, he would have gotten there himself. Eventually. Not to belittle the importance of Lauterbur's contribution, but after crediting Damadian in his personal notebook on the day of his great idea, he failed to ever credit Damadian in his publications and thus, he has commited the worst scientific crime - that of plagiarism. MCR • 10/9/03; 10:07:41 AM My response: "Hello? Damadian made the only actual "discovery" in among Lauterbur, Mansfield and himself." That is clearly an incorrect statement, regardless of what you think Damadian's role is. Nobody is arguing that Lauterbur and Mansfield weren't deserving of the Nobel (except perhaps you). The question is what is Damadian's role in all of this. "Until Damadian, as an MD and scientist, discovered that T1/T2 are different for different tissues and that cancerous tissue emits different signals than healthy tissue of the same organ." Damadian did in fact publish a paper that said that T1/T2 are different for healthy and cancerous tissues. However, that turned out to be wrong. Nobody was able to replicate the work and the conclusion was based on a small data set that had poor statistical resolution. It is now well accepted that the claim in his paper was incorrect. That is not to say it was a bad paper - just that the claim didn't hold up. That's why scientists retest discoveries. There's nothing bad about publishing something wrong. Claiming that it was correct in the light of further evidence is not a good thing, however. Part of the reason that he had such poor statistics was that his technique only allowed for a point-by-point analysis of the sample. This was so time-consuming and difficult that not much data could be collected. It also made the techique, even if it really did show something, unsuitable for scanning any significant quantity of tissue. So the claim that Damadian's discovery that T1/T2 are different for cancerous and non-cancerous tissues was wrong. Tell me again why a wrong claim is deserving of a Nobel prize? If you want to argue that Damadian deserves the prize, you'll need to come up with a different argument. It sounds like you're quoting ideas from Damadian's full page advertisement in today's Washington Post rather than coming up with something solid or independent. If you have more information, then I'd love to hear it. The reason why MRI can detect cancers is because of the boundaries that exist between healthy and cancerous tissue showing up - but that requires the spatial resolution of the tissue - exactly what Lauterbur figured out. He discovered how to get spatial data by setting up the magnetic fields with appropriate gradients. Mansfield's contribution is without question - he worked out what needed to be done to deconvolve the data obtained in two-dimensional scanning. It's an idea that somebody else would have had even if he hadn't but he did figure that out first. Resolving this issue comes down to whether or not you think a Nobel should be awarded to somebody who has a general idea or to the person who actually figures out how the idea really works. This is related to the idea of "concept patents". Interestingly, Damadian only won his lawsuit for patent infringement because the laws at the time allowed him to claim priority using a "concept patent". The law has changed and if he were to embark on that lawsuit today, it appears he would have lost. It's pretty clear to the people who were around at the time that Lauterbur really did figure out the details. Sure Damadian had a conceptual idea that was good even if it took him in the wrong direction. But if Nobels were awarded to the people who had the conceptual idea, then a significant number of Nobels should have gone to different people - often people who didn't understand the problem as well as those who figured out the details and were actually awarded the prizes. ** - I read the appeals of Damadian and found parallel points with Mel Gibson case... - Explain please.. - They are working on different areas, both they are very close on the principles to be independent and cused anger by AIPAC. - I know many attitudes by Damadian and understand that this Armenian Scientist made red-hot by such lobbies... But how caused a film producer to be fallen similarly position and... - Well, Gibson refuseed sponsring the lobbies and didn't change screen-play, too... Movie star Mel Gibson's controversial $25 million film about Jesus has sparked a new battle — among Jews. For months, Gibson's "The Passion" has spurred headlines from the Los Angeles Times to The New York Times, from Fox News to The New Yorker, for its reportedly graphic portrayal of the last days of Jesus and its laying heavy blame for his death on the Jews. Much of the media coverage has focused on the conflict between Gibson, who belongs to a traditionalist Catholic sect opposed to Vatican reforms in general, and some Jewish figures who warn the film will stir anti-Semitism by splicing together the most anti-Jewish portions of the New Testament gospels with extra-biblical writings of mystics who blamed all Jews for the crucifixion. - Okay!... I undersatdn, if Nobel prize should be shared on cinema, so we should witness two guys side by side; MRI creator and Independent Film producer.. - So you can interprete my minds... - Excuse me Sir; I wonder why the muslims shared Nobel prize.. - You mean Mammele Ebadi? - Not only this woman!.. Remember, last year won not single one woman, all the winner were the men, because last year were the big occupations, big invasions on the big countries like Balkan, Chechenia, Afghanistan, Iraq and all these investments need "secon hand" propaganda instruments; it's ongoin Cold War and it's the work of "guys".. The "hot-war" is the work of guys, not the Selma Lagerlös doggies, nor Mammele Ebadi... - And now? - Now we succeed on many areas worldwide and now we aim to destruct Iran, North Korea... Therefore I brought Damadian's before speechs and petitions.. Read other pages, too; please.. So we can compare it better.. Compare with the nobel winner muslim guys and Damadian!... Damadian looks like more muslim when you see the true face of the fake muslims, charlatan satellites... - I see.. If Damadian could be muslim scientist, so we should witness much more cruel results... - Don't mind Nobel prize; compare his before appeals and Ahmed Rami's appeals.. Here!.. Read all these collected examples... - Wow!.. Damadian was been "black-listed" just before Nobel scandals.. - He was been registrated and pursued by the lobbbies but Nobel fraud been last one drop so Damadian awakened... - When I read all these elderly appeals and pettions so I afraid Damadian should handled like a "psyco", what the many intellectuals processed... - I am thinking different.. I f Damadian never signed such actions, perhaps he could get a chance... But not so stronger chance.. It's not enough to be fake muslim, too... - What more? - It's not enough to be first at all the first on science or litterature... Oif Adalian should be pedophile, maybe sould bigger chance as awarded by Nobel homos chorus... - There are many awarded people, even their relatives can't remember if they really the scientists or charlatans... - Like Selma Lagerlös, she never wrote poem but on the Nobel-list she calls "poet", instead of thif, copied folk-saga wealth of oppressed Scandinavians... - Drug was free in Sweden, but ut's ot so liberal market nowadays... I understand.. - If you corrupt an authority, it's crime and you find yourself in the prison. But when you build a foundation and buy the brains of selected persons under label "prize", so it will be legalized issue; most lefgalized corrupt labeled "Nobel"... Therefore they use both imported figures by the side of our bastard arrangers, like Uffe Ekman... - Who is that girl? - Man, holy liar Ulf Ekman.. Read their own pages, please; you understand such Svekish words; here is a wonderful description on this instrument: Pastor och judisk bastard; "Godfader of Holy falsification" för härvan Livets Ord . Han är en av de fanatiska Zionist Mafia-vänner, har bl.a. skrivet boken "Judarna - Framtidens folk", där han visar hur det är vår plikt som icke-judar att slava för det judiska folket - till sin hjälp för att förklara detta citerar Ekman bibelcitat från den judiska bibeln - Torahn. Typisk religiös kollaboratör fascist i branschen av kristen-Nazi-Zionist triangel. Förenade Israelinsamlingen - Keren Hayesod: En mäktig judisk organisation, med global täckning och lokalavdelningar över hela världen. Arbetar med att samla in pengar till den s k Zionist military Mafia USrael genom pengainsamlingar och donationer från förmögna judar i "diasporan". Den svenska lokalavdelningen har en egen tidning som heter "Menorah". Goj: (goy, pluralis. gojim el. goyim) Nedlåtande judisk beteckning på icke-judar. Synonymt med "boskap", "kreatur" enligt dem, den form av fascist syn relaterat med judiska uttrycket "Shabbaz Goj". - This an enormous double moral machine, it stinks much more in last time... Machine has two sides; a side of these lobbies discrimate persons and recruits only the selected loyal members in false democracy areas and second one side of the troops going to eliminate people on the occupied areas... A soft side and a bloody backside of an enorms process... - Look at the AMS, for example it worjks like a kind of mniature model of Nobel committees; here the persons get first true jobs, who licks the ass of zionist chiefs.. Meantime these authorities discriminate the honoured intellectuals... I met well-known examples, jobless academicians too.. There are many persons much more talented than COETZEEE and Mammele EBADI, there are much more Humanist Jurists, Humanist Poems, Writers who are the victims of satellite regimes.. These pursued heroes really show engagement on many areas but these pursued persons are still under heavy persecution process... I met the true heroes of human rights, been jobless because they never collaborated with the judaized Imperilaism.. I know many living examples, sice 15 years going jobless... Many of them used in the laboratories, many of them are not aware... - Many of them above listed offices and leagues, too.. They have been used as animals in the laboratories, but they don't aware on such process.. - You mean the false "Jobbcentrum Vårberg"?.. - Such ridiculous process centres of hypocrisy system... - I understand!.. All these registrated intellectuals handled more cruel than non-talented immigrants...Because, imperialism afraid of the brains at work nor the "living creatures"... - Sweden has at least an half million registrated jobless... Massdiscrimination, human and no single one "jobseeker Jew"... Like a kind of dynasty... - Many pursued persons get no single one true cnace in work lihe... All life long!.. This is a crime!... - Discrimination is a crime, true!.. - Discrimination and persecution are the exercution of liberal capitalist barbarity!... - Satellites living in an ocean of double standards... They give Nobel prize to the lapdogs and meantime don't see the reality in their own backstage.. - Are we, ordinary people are all together the animals? - According to Jewish dogmatism; yes!... A kind of "Animaniacs", what the boss of Swedish cultur-market describes...... If you accept that Jews are first class human and you are animal, serious; so you can take permanent chance for recruits in the liberalized work world... - Now I understand better, why any selected immigrants take always chance to be personnel in Scandinavia!.. - This is a chain!.. - Dirty and bloody chain, but you must use label "culture"!.. This is the validity in this community which rules under Zionist domination... - What I learned here, you know? - What? - Ahmed RAMI should be stronger candidate to NOBEL prize, if he should be traitor like these false Cubanos, Persian whores or traitor Kurds, pedophilia criminals by neo-liberal fascist leagues of Folkpartiet... - Dr. Raymond Damadian should absolutely nominated to Nobel prize if he was one of the Swedish pedophile doctors.. You know, most wanted pedophile doctors exposed in other countries but they released in Sweden when the authorities marked their lobby relations... This system prizes such instruments, not the true independent scientists... - Sir, you describe what we think!.. - You don't need to be genie to guess that the "butcher" sharks living in same ocean between the hippocampus and delphinus... - Poem? - Tolkning af J. M. "Jabotinsky Male whore" COETZEE!.. He won Nobel prize, too... - ?! ** - I didn't hear Damadaian before I visited Tel Aviv... - First in Usrael you met with Damadian? - No!.. Not with him, but his enemies... A rabbin showed this article to me, when who knew I am a doctor from US... - Show it me, please!.. - Welcome!.. Read these lines, please; "He believes that rejection of God's account of Creation as the foundation for our society is basic to the spiritual, social and economic sickness of our times. We are replaying 'the seven steps of human regression and social disintegration' which the Apostle Paul described in Romans chapter 1 as happening subsequent to the rejection of the true God as Creator." and he continues talking on the sickness of capitalist society... - Who is he, a priest? - Not a priest, he was Dr. Damadian.. - Oh, what!.. Give me this broshure please.. Big surprise.. Is it the same person? - Same Dr. who dismissed by the Nobel committees.. - What said Rabin in Tel Aviv?.. - We must be awakened and dismiss such "goy-guys" everywhere... - ?! ** - Why the Zionist lobbies invest for manipulative culture activities? - One aspect of the centuries-old, and present-day, operations of the Zionists is the undermining and ruining of the culture of other nations, the disintegration of their distinctive national features and of their national unity. A related aspect is their activities directed against the culture of all mankind, against classical, harmonizing art of all kinds. Destruction, dissonance, abstractionism, surrealism and other nastinesses are elevated into a principle. This is then declared to be the last word in culture; those who do not accept it are defamed as being retrogrades, as not understanding modern art, and so forth. The consciousness and psychology of the masses are ruined. This applies both to any particular nation, and to all mankind. The nature of the "cultural activities" of the Zionists lies in depriving all the Gentile nations of their particular national roots, as well of their roots in a general human sense. That is the nature of the Zionists' so-called cosmopolitanism. The current decline of culture and art in Russia is very directly related to the ruinous work of Zionism, and is the direct work of Zionism's hands. In large matters as in small, Zionists are everywhere taking control of the organs of administration of culture, art, education and science, and are performing relevant work in a manner suitable to Zionism. Specifically, the art of a nation, and the roots of a nation's soul, are being perverted, vulgarized and coarsened. This is done shamelessly and effectively. They take their activities to the stage where a Russian, for example, (and unfortunately this is no rarity) will say: "I can't stand Russian songs!" The point is that he has been and still is being served a specially prepared surrogate. The songs which are passed off as the songs of a nation frequently bear no relation to the true art of that nation. They are either minor pieces of work, or imitations, or things which have been specially corrupted and perverted. Moreover, man has for a long time been sustainedly torn away from his national roots. He is to a large extent already denationalized and will consequently better absorb that substitute for culture which is of benefit to Zion because it works on people in the spirit which Zion desires. ** - Nobel prize is the bigger process by all of such cultural weapons... - A strong advocate of Zionism, Gerald Kaufmann, heads the panel of judges for the Booker Prize. Other members of the panel are John Sutherland, Natasha Walter, Shena Mckay and Boyd Tonking. There were several factors other than literary excellence that influenced the selection for the prize wrote Paul Bailey, a noted literary critic, recently. He cited the examples of Salman Rushdie and Vikram Seth who, despite their lack of literary talent, were awarded the prize earlier. - Unfortunately... The year of 2003 prize was awarded to the South African writer, J.M Coetzee. The Egyptian writer Ahdaf Soueif was the most deserving among the final list of the writers. The judges considered her novel, 'The Map of Love', a rare piece of literary excellence, according to Bailey. Yet she was denied the prize. Analyzing the reasons for her disqualification, Prof. Sutherland considers that her hostile sentiments toward the Zionist movement could have prompted Kaufmann to adopt a unfavorable stand against her. Kaufmann's past as a zealous Jewish activist underpins this suspicion. He was born and brought up among Jewish zealots. After completing his education at Leeds, he entered politics. He was elected a Labor MP in 1970. Prime Minister Harold Wilson, noted for his Zionist tilt, included him among his confidants. Spotting his talent combined with his dedication to the Zionist movement, Wilson allowed Kaufmann to prepare his speeches on special occasions. During the Six-Day War, Kaufmann carried secret letters between the Prime Minister's office and Israel's ambassador Aharon Remez. This act, in fact, amounted to espionage and treason against Britain. Kaufmann's memoirs also shed light on the biased British stand toward Israel in 1967 war. Kaufmann criticized the neutral stand taken by Edward Heath's Conservative government in the 1973 Middle East war. He also expressed his displeasure over the government's ban on the sale of weapons to Israel, considering it the aggressor. The then Conservative government also denied American planes carrying weapons to Israel permission to land or refuel in British airports. Kaufmann also accused Foreign Secretary Sir Alec Douglas Home of anti-Semitism because of his bold stand in the General Assembly on this issue. Later Kaufmann paid a visit to Israel in order to express his sympathy and apology for the matter. Menahem Begin, the veteran terrorist leader, wanted to meet Kaufmann in particular and express his personal gratitude to Kaufmann for the services offered by him to Israel, Kaufmann's 'true motherland,' by committing treason against Britain, his native country. On Kaufmann's becoming the shadow foreign secretary for Labor in 1987, the Arabs expressed their deep concern over the matter. He did not want to lose his post because of the displeasure of the Arabs. Therefore Kaufmann began to appear as a supporter of Palestinian self-determination. His attitude toward the Zionist movement, however, did not undergo any change. He called Zionism a movement for cultural liberation. The fact that Salman Rushdie got the prize because of his venomous attack on Islam and Ahdaf Soueif was denied it because of her Arab identity makes one wonder whether a writer's attitude toward Islam and Arabs is the decisive factor in winning the Booker Prize ** - I understand, such kinky system gave prizes to its own doggies, nothing else... - It's true!.. And then this Jewish provocator propagandist lapdog "Jabotinsky Nut" COETZEE won (!!!) NOBEL prize 2003. - Well, it's not only to the fake literature of an zion "gentle fascist" bastard; frankly it's an extra prize to the South African mobilize assassination leagues who joined to realize "well-planned cleansing" Olof PALME, too... - Like a kinky film clip, a scenario on the Hypo-Culture Crisis of the zion infected Western shurk intellectuality. - It realized at the least!.. This is the "schutzpach", Jewish freakness... ** - We have a surprize guest in tv studio... Welcome, Sir!.. Ronald Bailey.. Welcome.. What is you comment on this affair? - Nobel Misfire? - That is right!... - Raymond Damadian gets snubbed - Okay!.. What is the reason? - Well; modern inventions usually have many parents. Thus Nobel Prizes in recent years have generally been won by several discoverers at a time. For example, the Nobel Prize in Physiology and Medicine was awarded earlier this week to Paul Lauterbur and Peter Mansfield for discovering magnetic resonance imaging (MRI). Today there are 22,000 MRI machines worldwide and some 60 million patients annually benefit from this noninvasive diagnostic technique that can identify tumors and the damage caused by heart attacks and strokes. Lauterbur and Mansfield made absolutely crucial contributions to the development of practical MRIs. Congratulations are certainly warranted, but there is a oddity about the award. Did the Nobel committee overlook the first inventor of MRI? I bring this question up because I had thought that the idea that MRI could be used to image living tissue was first conceived by American physician Raymond Damadian. I formed this impression when, back in the mid-1980s I reviewed A Machine Called Indomitable by New York Times reporter Sonny Kleinfield, which was the story of how Damadian created the first MRI machine. A cursory Google search fairly clearly identifies Damadian as the first inventor of MRI scanning. In fact, Damadian's first MRI machine, Indomitable, is displayed at the National Inventors Hall of Fame in Akron, Ohio, on loan from the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. Damadian supporters are running a full page ad in today's Washington Post urging people to contact the Nobel committee to "express their outrage" at excluding Damadian. Why did the committee not cite Damadian's work when it awarded this prize? I have no inside information, but I wonder if the committee was swayed by the fact that Damadian, although a brilliant inventor, is apparently a creation science nut. In ironic contrast, Lauterbur's current research is on the chemical origins of life. - Ronald Bailey is Reason's science correspondent. Thak you, Sir!.. And other one of the guests, please!.. ** - The medial shurks try to show him as a dare... - Whom? - Scientst!.. Physician launches public protest over medical Nobel, but there are many columnists, for example Cordelia Edvardson, Anita Goldman, Per Ahlin and many other little amatuer Jews, try to show Damadian as crazy... - TradiZionally!.. The crowds need chirpy for earn much more by their owners... ** - Is Damadian a believed person? - I think so.. He has been registrated by the Church.. - Evangelian? - Unfortunately, no.. Ortodox... - Ortodox Jew? - No!.. He is Armenian... - Three points as minus from me!.. - ?! ** - It's all folks.. You listened to the secret discussion records.. But tv redaction exposed scenes of this kinky play... - I watced al the scenes.. But my dear friends, don't believe in them... - To whom we should believe... - There is only one truth, not double... - You mean, they don't know the true reason... - Nobody knows... - But you are working there and you are not such ordinary "body"... - Heh.. heeeh!... Sven you smells foxy... - What is the true reason, Sir!... I know all these persons, who discussed and we listened here in studio.. - I respect them, beause they are the exeperts.. They are the scientists.. But it is not enough always to know the tuth... - Right.. I agree with you.. .They are not the friends to King Carl Gustav nor Bonnier&Wallenberg charlatans.. These all above are the respectful scientists, all together... - Of course!..If I should be only one in the Nobel committe, absolutely I couldn't choose anyone of them... Maybe we should choose all together of them, scientists... But one of them had wrong... - Did the true scientis a wrong? - Not directly.. How can I explain, we should choose the true first one... - This one who accuse the Nobel committee? - Yes, he!.. We searched by the lobbies and couldn't find a relation... - What kind of relation? - This crazy Dalmatian... - Mr. Damadian, not from Dalmatia... - Okay, Sir!.. Your guy never was been a member by the lobbies, our lobbies.. He never supported our foundations, never joined our activities.. And when we occupied Iraq, he didn't accept to spread our propaganda material on his responsible areas, authorities, assistance groups.. He was so independent... - Is it wrong to be independent scientist? Is it wrong to be honorable and reject to lick the ass of your zionist capitalt boss? - No!.. It's not wrong but we can never pay one single point to such rebels... Anyway we did wrong... - What is the committe's wrong, Sir? - We thought that independent scientists are mostly alone and accepts like a kind of dare in the society because of their exantric attitudes... It's our only one wrong, we missed to create a hobby to this guy... - Hobby? - Problem.. So he never could set whole page announcements on the international newspapers worldwide... - I am afraid of you, Sir!... - You are second oine in this week, who says same thing... - Who was the first one?... - My general of armee, when I was soldier there and we occiped the southern Lubnania; he is the first; Ariel Sharon... - ?! ** - And a bite of imagination around the MRI, Magnetic Resonance Imaging... - At last, we would like explain How does MRI scanning work? - Yes!.. We are listen to you.... - Nuclear magnetic resonance is the fundamental principle exploited by MRI scanners. The nucleus of an atom can behave like a tiny magnet since its protons are electrically charged and spinning, and the neutron also has a magnetic field. The only nuclei that lack magnetic fields are those with even numbers of both protons and neutrons, because the particles pair off and cancel out each others' field. The atomic nucleus spins on its axis. When the body with its atoms is placed in the magnet of an MRI machine the axes of spin in atomic nuclei line up with the direction of the magnetic field, which has a lower energy than aligning against the field. Radiation of the right frequency can be absorbed and cause the nuclei to switch from the lower energy state to a higher one. A radio coil wrapped around the body injects radio waves and the body's atomic nuclei 'answer back' with a radio signal. The radio waves produce the signal by causing the nuclei to flip back and forth from their orientation with the field to their orientation against it. The hard part is to design a machine to 'read' the differing signals from differing tissues in the body (which have different 'proton densities'-for example more or less water content) and translate this into a clearly defined image. If you have ever had to have one of these scans, you would have been asked first to make sure you had not metal objects on you. The magnetic pulse is so strong that metal objects would literally fly across the room if close to the machine. - After all these scientical finess Dr.Damadian caused enormous angry by the fanatical religious authorities... - What is the connex with religion and MRI? You said that Damadian is a believer, typical Orthodox Armenian, or? - But he slams the Talmudic fanatics.. At first in 1994 Damadian published a kind of declaration and accused the dogmatical fanatics...Read these broshures, please!.. - I remember better now!.. "Scientist Slams Society's Spiritual Sickness!".. This Damadian is.. - Yes, same person!.. - If I could be member by the Nobel commissions, I would absolutely reject his name, if he been candidated... - ?! ** - What is the response of the "comment producer dolls" of Scandinavian zionist press? - As usually, they continue to threat the Independent Scientists and solidarity movements... - Have you any concrete example, to show the tv guests? - Here, this is DN, Scandinavians most dominated "brain washing" machine.. - Let's watch and read it!.. JUDISKA PROPAGAND-PRESS exempelvis DN-SWEDISH (!? poor betrayed Scandinavians) SLÅR MOT TILLBAKA och PROVOCERAR ATT STARTA MOTATTACK, varnar att DAMADIAN SJÄLV RISKERAR ATT FÄLLAS: DN-Jewish Newspaper/Bonniers files: Publicerad 21 oktober 2003 Uppfinnare kan bli stämd för protest I en helsidesannons i gårdagens DN protesterade uppfinnaren Raymond Damadian mot att han inte fick något Nobelpris i medicin i år. Annonsen kommer inte att ge honom någon medalj. Däremot riskerar han att bli stämd av Nobelstiftelsen. Uppfinnaren Raymond Damadian känner sig snuvad på Nobelpriset och protesterade i en annons i DN på måndagen. Nu riskerar han att bli stämd av Nobelstiftelsen. - Nobelkomittén är kriminell! Den har raserat mitt rykte genom att förfalska historien, säger Raymond Damadian, uppfinnare och vd för företaget Fonar i den amerikanska delstaten New York. Hans röst närmar sig falsett i telefon. Han har drivit en kampanj ända sedan Karolinska institutets Nobelförsamling utsåg årets medicinpristagare den 6 oktober i år. Redan samma vecka protesterade han i helsidesannonser i tidningarna Washington Post, New York Times och Los Angeles Times. I går var samma annons införd på bästa annonsplats i Dagens Nyheter, vilket kostar minst en kvarts miljon kronor. Raymond Damadian är med andra ord riktigt arg. Hans ilska beror på att den amerikanske kemisten Paul Lauterbur och den brittiske fysikern Peter Mansfield får dela på årets medicinpris för vetenskapen bekom magnetkameran. Raymond Damadian får ingen del av äran - vilket är extra bittert med tanke på att reglerna tillåter att upp till tre forskare delar på medicinpriset. Raymond Damadian radar upp sina egna insatser i gårdagens annons. Hans företag tillverkar magnetkameror av den sort som uppmärksammades med årets medicinpris. År 1971 beskrev Damadian en metod för att mäta skillnaden mellan en cancertumör och frisk vävnad med så kallad kärnmagnetisk resonans. Året därpå sökte han patent på metoden. Han kunde inte ta bilder av vävnader i den levande kroppen, bara göra mätningar i provrör. Men metoden väckte stor uppmärksamhet i den medicinska världen. - Jag tycker att han borde ha fått en del av priset, säger Anders Hemmingsson, pensionerad radiologiprofessor vid Uppsala universitet, och en av magnetkamerans pionjärer i Sverige. Kemister och fysiker med erfarenhet av kärnmagnetisk resonans var inte lika imponerade. - Raymond Damadian ska absolut inte ha något pris. Mycket av det han gjorde var rent blaj, säger Peter Stilbs, professor i fysikalisk kemi vid Tekniska högskolan i Stockholm. Samma uppfattning framkommer i boken "Abusing Cancer Science" från 1987 av biokemisten Donald Hollis. Hollis upptäckte att det var omöjligt att upprepa några av de mätningar som enligt Damadian skulle tala om hur farlig en viss tumör var. - Det var bara medicinarna som köpte Damadians idéer rakt av, inte kemister och fysiker, säger Peter Stilbs. Raymond Damadian fnyser bort kritiken. Han fnyser bort hela Nobelstiftelsen. I sina annonser har han satt dit en uppochnervänd bild av Nobelmedaljen med Alfred Nobels ansikte i relief. - Det gjorde jag för att hela den här saken är uppochnervänd, säger Raymond Damadian. Men så får man inte göra. Medaljen är varumärkesskyddad av Nobelstiftelsen. - Jag bedömer att Nobelstiftelsen skulle vinna om det blev en rättegång om saken, säger Ulf Bernitz, juridikprofessor och varumärkesexpert vid Stockholms universitet. Nobelstiftelsens vd Michael Sohlman vill inte avslöja något om sina eventuella planer på att stämma bråkmakaren. Däremot ger han ett glasklart besked om att Raymond Damadian inte kommer att få någon medalj i år, trots alla protester. Raymond Damadian hoppas för sin del att han blir stämd. - Då skulle stiftelsens smutsiga hantering få ännu mer uppmärksamhet, säger han. ....written Per Snaprud/staff (propagand-instrument-lapdog) by its owner Jew Bonnier-clan-press ** - I understand many intellectuls struggle against the zkionist imperialism; for example Ahmed Rami, Social Scientist... But Damadian is a doctor and not politician who create danger against system... - Just a minute, Sir!.. Do yoiu show me one single line from Ahmed Rami books, that he would "demolish White House" or such appeal? - No!.. Rami and other social scientists mostly using the facts and phlisophical methodes, not "direct antiglobal actions" or "Reclaim the Street" shows... - You see!.. But I show here an elderly declaration that a simply evidence, Dr. Damadian aims demolish White House... - Show me this broshure, I wish read it!.. "Dr Damadian says that 'if America is to be rescued, she must be rescued from the pulpit—it is too late for the White House'. He says that Americans need to realize that any country 'runs off its spiritual batteries, not off its bank accounts, and when those batteries are drained, its bank accounts will be empty.' - Wow!.. - I thought... - I understand... - There are differencies.. Sytem need very good scientists that serving very good, system don't need very good brains that judge the system.. Other things are only simply details according to the rulers, your name is Mohammad Al-DURRA, Hannes WESTBERG or Carlo GIULIANI in the street.. It's important where your name been registrated... - Where!... - I can't talk anymore.. Tomorrow I must be in Synagogue!.. - Achtung!.. - ?! *** ___________________________________________________________________________ Today's most visited recommended links: AAARGH: http://aaargh.vho.org/ Abunimah org.. http://www.Abunimah.org/ ADC, Anti-Discrimination Committee: http://www.ADC.org/ Adelaide Institute: http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/ ADL (American Defence League) Solidarity with Yugoslavian People: http://adlusa.com/adl/ ADL (Anti-Defamation Zion Criminals) Watch: http://www.zpub.com/notes/adl2.html ADDAMEER, Human Rights against Torture: http://www.addameer.org/torture/index.html Afghanistan Liberation Organisation (ALO, Revolutionary Marxist-Maoist Organisation of Afghanistan Working Class): http://htmlgear.lycos.com/gw/guest/control.guest?u=afghanistan&a=view&i=1&r= Ahram Org.: http://www.Ahram.org.Eg/weekly/ AIC: http://www.alternativenews.org/ Al Aqsa INTIFADA: http://www.alaqsaintifada.org/ Al Awda Britannia, the Palestinian Right to Return: http://www.Al-Awda.org.uk/ Al Ayyam org.: http://www.Al-Ayyam.com/today/index.asp http://www.al-ayyam.com/guestbook/addnewguest.asp Alexinac; Yugoslavians massacred by the Zionist military mafia's toy NATO: http://www.sramota.com/nato/aleksinac/ Al Fatah Liberation Organization Victoria Siempre! http://www.fateh.net/#[ http://www.fateh.net/e_editor/02/road_map.htm Al Haq/Law org. affiliate I.C.J., International Commission of Jurists, Geneva: http://www.AlHaq.org/ Al Qudüs University.: http://www.AlQuds.edu/ http://www.alquds.edu/visitor_info.asp Alternative Info org.: http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85819409/altinfo/indianer.htm http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85819409/altinfo/boylefolkr.htm AlternativeMedia: http://www.altermedia.info/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=214&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 http://www.altermedia.info/modules.php Americans Against Bombing http://www.againstbombing.org/ http://www.againstbombing.org/comments.htm Americans Against World Empire: http://www.againstbombing.com American state terrorism: http://www.americanstateterrorism.com/ Amin org.: http://www.amin.org/ Amirah/Ethnic Cleansing: http://www.geocities.com/amirah_palestine/Jerusalem_Ethnic_Cleansing.htm http://www.geocities.com/amirah_palestine/Our_Children.html Amnesty International: http://www.amnesty.org/news/1996/51504996.htm http://users3.cgiforme.com/amnesty/cfmboard.html Anna LINDH, Abraham LINCOLN, KENNEDY&KENNEDY, PALME, FORTYN "cleansed" by the same league, ZOGang: http://www.friheten.no/uriks/2003/09/lindh.html Anti-Fascist Duisburg gegen den zionistischen Imperialismus: http://www.antifakomitee.de/ Anti-imperialist: http://www.antiimperialista.com/en/ http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=2154786270 http://pub26.bravenet.com/forum/add.php?id=0&usernum=2154786270 Anti-Imperialist Musicians (downloading easy and free) against judaized dominance on culture: http://www.sniper-records.net/torsvrede/e_index.htm AntiKrisGroup Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.antikrig.org/ Antiracist Network: http://www.antiracismnet.org/main.html Anti-War: http://www.antiwar.com/ Anti-Zionist Laponian revolution supported by Mugu Liberation Movement of Nigeria&Togo: http://www.mugu.com/cgi-bin/Upstream/whatsnew.html?action=/Anti-Zionist_movement/Independetn_Laponian_resistance/AntiJudaic_AntiImperialist_Lars.Törnman Anti-Zionist Magazine Challenge: http://www.hanitzotz.com/challenge/ Anti-Zionist Revolutionary Kurdistan: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1074/ http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1074/israel.html http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/1074/israel.htm Webmaster Comrade Roni INAN's e-post: Inan@tdc.dircon.co.uk, IntPEN@dircon.co.uk Apartheid in Fact: (Pissed off by the Jewish Chiefs of Humboldt Co.) http://www.humboldt1.com/~016910/BibliogZionism.html Apartheid should be banned worldwide: www.boycottisraeligoods.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=phpBB2&file=viewforum&f=3 Arab Human Rights: http://www.Arabhra.org/index.htm Arthur R. BUTZ informs about Jewish Fascism: http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/index.html%20 http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~abutz/dnews/ Artists&Christian Academians against Racism: http://www.geocities.com/orthopapism/jewishracism.html Associazione Revisionismo Storico: http://members.tripod.com/~revisionismo/ Assyrian Freedom online&Assyrians against Jewish Fascism:: http://www.mathaba.net/www/palestine/ http://www.b2g2.com/boards/board.cgi?user=mathaba Australian Anti-Zionist News by Cassopaea: http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/signs130.htm Aztlan: http://www.aztlan.net/ BADIL (Resource Center for Palestinian Residency and Refugee rights): http://www.Badil.org/ http://www.badil.org/e-index.html BarnesReview against the Jewish fabrication industry: http://www.barnesreview.org/ BBC Documentary Center/ ( with special thanks to the staff of Panorama Archive-BBC) http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/newsid_1381000/1381328.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmaedia/12380000/video/_13813228_sharon_v.ram (Pissed off by the corrupted Fascist Jewish staff...) AudioVisual doc. on Human Butcher SHARON and other Jew-Fascists' Crimes/PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE/massacre in Sabra/Shatila/Qana...occupied Mideast/Hypocrisy of U.N.-War Crime section's reponsible jurists, corrupted chiefs etc. E-post: newsonline@bbc.co.uk, bbcprime@bbc.com.uk, Bergen-Belsen Jobbcentrum Independent Initiative against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.palkom.com/bilder.htm Belgian MotherEarth Activists against the judaized fascist dominance on the World: http://www.motherearth.org/nowar/en/home_en.php Beware Holy places from the ZOG, zioni occupational gang,: http://www.hlt-palestine.org/ Beyond the fake propaganda of the Zionist Media: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ Bob HANSSON&BURMAN&Musicians against the judaized "Big Brother" Imperialism: http://www.highspeedart.com/hansson/bobbrev.html http://www.national.se/ Bolletino di informazione antimperialista: http://www.bollettino.it/ Books and useful information against Jewish Brain Washing process: http://holywar.org/BOOKS.htm Boycott bush : http://www.boycottbush.net/ Brain-Washing/Kinderbücher; die die Gehirnen von Kinder wäschen: http://www.najdeh.de/nn/dez99/bild.html (pissed off by the Germanian whore-authorities...) E-post: redaktion@najdeh.de Brasilian CLAJADEP against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.clajadep.hpg.ig.com.br/index.html Brasilian PCML, Partido MarxistLeninista revolutionaries Inverta: http://www.inverta.com.br/ppag68b.htm Britannian Council against the Jewish Fascism: http://www.caabu.org/index.html Britannian&Palestinian info center: http://www.palestine-info.co.uk/am/publish/ Bulldogs and lapdogs: http://zog.to/3/dogs/dg-ind.htm Bulldog WC-mouth BUSHIT and lapdog Swedish Evangelian G.rån PETZION: http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85819409/altinfo/svenskregering.htm Bush-BLiar couple liberated (!) masses by massacre: http://www.verity.nu/notice.htm BUSH Jr. Watch; super bloody idiotic marionette of all the ages of civilization:: http://www.bushwatch.net/ Café Freedom: http://www.freedomsite.org/cafe/homepage.html Campaign against Arm Trade: http://www.caat.org.uk/ Canada-Edmonton Activists struggle against Jewish Fascism: http://www.wage-peace.org/ Cartoons for think twice: http://zog.to/3/cartoons/yabo.htm http://zog.to/3/cartoons/cr-ind.htm http://zog.to/3/cartoons/rocks.htm Cartoon Nutwork: http://www.michaelmoore.com/_media/images/home/dude-top-02.gif http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/E38DDE90-1265-4C32-A3A2-8A2AE1301E28/368/THENEXTASSIGNMENTENGCOMPRESSED.gif http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/B9FC8BDE-14A0-4572-801B-617B46B23D3B/366/RemovalofsaddamEngcompressed.gif http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/12E185D7-E454-4E84-8889-5CDD437D3124/13540/MeCHAMPIONSHIPENGCOMPRESSED.gif http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/711438CD-45C0-4F03-BB11-5E648C25D33F/370/PAKUSTIESENGCOMPRESSED.gif http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/rdonlyres/C414B677-2460-47FC-87E3-8DA7346C1903/542/sectariandivisioninIRAQCompressed.gif Catalonia fights against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.psan.net/lluita/ Censor driven by the Zionist Imperialist Power: http://www.jeninjenin.org/film.htm http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,858368,00.html Che in Russia: http://titan.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=CheGuevaraRussia Che Guevara Information Archive: http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/8702/che.html http://www.voy.com/493/ Che GUEVARA Internet Archive: http://www.marxists.org/archive/guevara/index.htm Che lives -I-: http://www.che-lives.com/ http://www.che-lives.com/cgi/gbook/guestbook.pl Che lives -II-: http://www.che-lives.com/simpgb/guestbook.php?lang=en&layout=chelives Che; Vallegrande Che Festival page: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/9051/ Chicage Combats Jewish Fascism: http://www.chicagoantiwar.org/ Chilean MIR against the Zionist Imperialism: E-post: mir-rebelde@terra.cl Children Foundation: http://www.tamkeen.org/CSOs/PSCF/Index.html Children Rights, emergency: http://www.kinderusa.org/emergency.htm Children Treated Abroad: http://www.pcrf.net/abroad/abroad.html Christians against the Jewish Manipulations Empire; Alfred OLSEN's channel Holy War: http://holywar.org/indexholy.html http://holywar.org/PROPAGA2.htm Civilized (!) Negro lapdog Condoleezza shows braveness by her Lords: http://www.gagarama.de/bush-praesident-specials/bush-popp-rice.htm CODOH: http://www.codoh.com/index_main.html Colorado Solidarity Committees: http://www.ccmep.org/ Comandante: http://www.el-comandante.com/Default2.htm http://www.el-comandante.com/guestlog.htm http://www.el-comandante.com/ADDGUEST.HTM Committee to Support the Revolution in Peru http://www.csrp.org/ Committee of the Union of Communists of Iran (Sarbedaran): http://www.sarbedaran.50megs.com/new_page_3.htm http://us.geocities.yahoo.com/gb/view?member=voice_sarbedaran Committee to Support the Revolution in Peru: http://www.csrp.org/ Communiste Révolutionnaire Francia LCR, against Jewish Fascism: http://www.lcr-rouge.org/ Comrade Burman in Scandinavian Ghetto (Förort, för hård): http://www.fororten.com/eburman/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=19&mode=thread&order=0 Comrade Raymond Luc LEVASSEUR: http://home.earthlink.net/~neoludd/ Comrade Sundiata ACOLI: http://afrikan.i-dentity.com/sundiata/ Comrade Tom MANNING: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Parliament/3400/ Comrade TCHOLAKOV, Stefan Dimiter: http://web.domaindlx.com/choli/Links1.asp Copenhagen Initiative documented Crimes of Zionist Imperialism: http://www.nejtilkrig.dk/dokumenter.htm Court tv: http://www.courttv.com/casefiles/mumia/ Coventry Socialist Party's Anti-Zionist Forum: http://www.coventrysocialistparty.freeserve.co.uk/ Covert Action http://www.covertaction.org/bio_cover_Excerpts.htm Crimes organized by the Jewish lobbies: http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm CSVI, Coordination for Support the People's Resistance in INDONESIA: http://www.xs4all.nl/~peace/ http://www.xs4all.nl/~peace/pubeng/inter.html Cuba, si!: http://mercury.guestworld.tripod.lycos.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=cubasi http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/1690/#Top http://htmlgear.lycos.com/gw/guest/control.guest?u=cubasi http://htmlgear.lycos.com/gw/guest/control.guest?a=sign&u=cubasi&i=1&r=http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atlantis/1690/ Culture plunderers leagues as a project of invasion coalition of the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/crimesvsculture.htm Danemark Defence Humanbeing against Jewish Fascism: http://www.danpal.dk/ David IRVING tells: http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/index.html Defence the Child Rights: http://www.dci-pal.org/ Deir Yassin org.: http://www.deiryassin.org/ http://www.deiryassin.org/menu_feedback.html Democratic Palestine: http://members.tripod.com/~freepalestine/ Danemark-Palestine Solidarity org.: http://www.danpal.dk/english.php Dangerous idio-animal typ among us: http://abbc.com/bush/chimp.htm Democracy tv&radio; watch entire, now: http://www.democracynow.org/index.pl?btid=11 Dov'e' l'Aereo che ha Colpito il Pentagono?! http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm Dubliners against Zionist Imperialism: http://irishantiwar.org/index.adp Eelam, Sri Lancaiska Guerilla Organisation: http://www.tamilnet.com/ Electronic Intifada org.: http://www.electronicintifada.net/new.html Electronic Iraq org.: http://electroniciraq.net/news/ ETA, Euscal Herria Journal for Liberation Basqia: http://members.freespeech.org/ehj/ EMHRN, Euro-Mediterranean Network: http://www.euromedrights.net/english/engelsk.html Ethnic Cleansing/Ethnische Säuberungen, Völkermord in Palästina&Irak: http://globalfire.tv/nj/d2001/juden_luegen.htm (...hacked) Euscal Herria Batasuna, Baskian Guerilla Organisation: http://www.euskal-herritarrok.org/international/b01/eindex.htm E.Z.L.N., Mexican Guerilla Zapatista Liberation Army: http://www.ezln.org/ FAIR - Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting http://www.fair.org/ F.A.R.C.-E.P.; Colombian Guerilla Organisation: http://www.farc-ep.org/ Finlandia-Helsinki Activists struggle against Zionist Imperialism: http://members.surfeu.fi/ewk/eiiskuairakiin/ Foolish Figures of Muppet Show of Human Butcher Sharony Boss: http://www.realchange.org/ Foto Coverage&Shame on Humanity! http://zog.to/3/photos/shot1.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/tr-ind.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/shot2.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/shot7.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/shot10.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/shot14.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/beita.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/family.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/shot50b.htm http://zog.to/3/photos/home-dem.htm http://zog.to/3/palestine/house-deo.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/tour14.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/qana24.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/tour-04.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/wash-rep3.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/tour-01a.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/AmarEmeera.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/tour-02.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/tour-05.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/baby1.htm http://zog.to/3/tour/tour-07.htm Francia movimento d'Internationale fight Jewish Fascism: http://site.voila.fr/PENN974/ Freedom and Justice: http://www.freesaj.org.uk/ Freedom Journal of Mumia Abu-JAMAL: http://www.mumia.org/freedom.now/ Free Speech; Love to Informative World:: http://members.tripod.com/~ukulju/links_2.htm Free Speech org.&tv; watch it, just now: http://www.freespeech.org/ http://www.freespeech.org/ramfiles/genocide.ram Free Speech Rights and its enemy number one; ADL gang: http://www.fpp.co.uk/docs/ADL/index.html French-Palestinian Solidarity Associations: http://www.palestine-france.com/ Genocide Survivors' Testimonies: http://www.alnakba.org/testimony/testimony.htm George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography: http://www.tarpley.net/bushb.htm Germanian Journal's English Redaction: http://www.globalfire.tv/nj/english.htm Germanian Kommunisten kämpfen gegen die zionistischen Faschisten: http://www.kommunisten-online.de/inhalt.htm Germanians advice the selfdefence against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.ostara.org/ Germar RUDOLF informs about the jewish dominated falsification industry: http://www.vho.org/ Goetheburg city Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.stoppakriget.nu/ Greecia-Athens Initiative against the judaized Imperialism: http://users.otenet.gr/~ergatiki/main.htm GreenLeft: http://www.greenleft.org.au/ Greenpeace knows that there is NATUR in the OCCUPIED TERRITORIES, too: http://www.cpnpeecp.org/ Halmstad city Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://hem.passagen.se/fred.i.mellanostern/ Hank ROTH's news center: http://pnews.org/ Genosse HÖJEBERG singt so schön noch immer: http://www.sub.su.se/forint/antis15.htm Hiroshima&Nagasaki; Fascist face of Zionist American massdestruction: http://www.mctv.ne.jp/~bigapple/ Holand Initiative against Jewish Fascism: http://www.wereldcrisis.nl/ Holocaust on Arabs&relatives: http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine.html Holocaust-Industries of the Zionist Imperialist profiteers: http://globalfire.tv/nj/d2001/juden/idxjuden.htm Humanistas Budapest against the judaized Imperialism: http://www.humanista.hu/ Human appeal of Holand scientists: http://www.omroep.nl/human/tv/muur/heelboek010/heelboek010.htm Human Rights in the occupied Middle East: http://www.derechos.org/human-rights/mena/iot.html Human Rights Center of Filistinia: http://www.PchrGaza.org/ IAP: http://www.iap.org/links.htm ILPS, Int. League of People's Struggle: http://www.geocities.com/ilps2000/whatsnew.htm Independent Institute against the Jewish Fabrication Industry: http://www.independent.org/index.html Indian Liberation: http://www.cpiml.org/liberation/year%202003/June2003/Foreign_Policy.htm Indict Human Butcher: http://www.iap.org/massacres.htm Indonesian PRD against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.xs4all.nl./~peace/pubeng/mov/mov.html Industrial Lie Mechanism&Traditional Fabrication and Holocaust Bluff of Jude Psycopats: http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/id44.htm Indymedia - Belgium http://belgium.indymedia.org/ Intifada Online: http://www.IntifadaOnline.com/ Intifada Online forum: http://www.soundofegypt.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=reply&f=5&t=000007 International A.N.S.W.E.R. (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism) http://www.internationalanswer.org International Action Center http://www.iacenter.org/ International Communists: http://www.vcp.nu/vcpnieuws/links.htm International Solidarity Movement: http://www.palsolidarity.org/ Investigation Committee on Ariel Sharon's crimes against humanity: http://www.petitiononline.com/warcrime/petition.html IRA, Ir(a)landia's Liberation Army: http://www.sinnfein.ie/index.html IRSM, Ir(a)landia's Socialist Workers: http://irsm.org/irsm.html Iranian Marxists: http://www.trife.com/sevnska/art/22-7-1m.htm Israel is losing, because the Lie-Imperium of the Jews has no future: http://www.bushwatch.com/comment.htm Italia forza struggle against the Jewish Fascism: http://www.forisociali.org/ Italiano Comrados against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.italiapalestina.it/sito/index.html Jail can't prevent the truth; 'cause TRUTH is stronger than jails: http://www.altermedia.info/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=208&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0 Japonian peace activists struggle against Zionist Imperialism: http://peaceact.jca.apc.org/ Japonian Communist Activists against the Jewish Fascism: http://www.jca.apc.org/~altmedka/engl-ito.html Jericho Movement: http://www.thejerichomovement.com/ Jesus Christus killed by the Fascist Jews: http://www.sullivan-county.com/id2/jews_killed.htm Jewish-Zionist plots were been exposed by the Australian Freedom Fighters: http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissenters/dissenters.htm Jihad for the liberation of Humanity: http://www.e-jihad.net/ej/ Jim KOPP and other true Christians demasked the Zionist Barbarity: http://www.christiangallery.com/ John BALL exposed the Jewish lies around the JobZentrum-files: http://www.air-photo.com/english/ John PILGER comments: http://www.johnpilger.com/ Joseph HARSCH comments: http://zog.to/3/harsch/hr-ind.htm Journalists who always been censored: http://www.gregpalast.com/ Karl MARX warns about the Talmudic Fascism; traditionally Jewish Barbarity: http://www.theunjustmedia.com/karl_marx_on_the_jewish_question.htm Karutzar; Bulgarians against the Zionist Genocides: http://user.domaindlx.com/karutzar/ Korean progressive network: http://english.jinbo.net/ Korean news-Democratic People's Republic of Korea: http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm E-post: eng-info@kcna.co.jp Kristiansand-city Independent Initiative against Jewish Fascism: http://www.uffp.org/ KurdInfo, Antisemite revolutionary community in Scandinava: http://www.Kurdinfo.com/ Kurdistan Liberation/Guerilla forum: http://guerilla.hypermart.net/discus/ E-post: Kurdistan_lib@hotmail.com Kurdistan Recognizes the Armenian Genocide: http://www.cilicia.com/armo10i_kurdistan.html More info on: Kurdistan Exile Parliament and Conflicts between Kurdish People and Jewish Occupational Mafia: : c/o: Haydar-Isik@t-online.de http://www.kurdistan.org/Articles/olson2.html Labor versus Capital in the heart of Jew World Order http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/8425/index.htm Laponian Anti-Zionist Marxists in solidarity like Comrade Lars TÖRNMAN: http://mailman.t0.or.at/mailman/private/infopalestine/Lars_Törnman/AntiZionistRevolutionaryLaponians Legitimate George WCmouth BuSHIT: http://www.legitgov.org/front_Sweden_violent.html Leonard PELTIER Defence Committee: http://www.freepeltier.org/ Law society: http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/ E-post: info.services@lawsociety.org.uk Leninist Current&Japonia: http://www.ngy1.1st.ne.jp/~ieg/index-e.html 0 Linköping city Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.valet.nu/fredsnatet/ Liberated people by the massacres of Zionist Occupational Imperialism http://bushspeaks.com/home.asp?did=121&dir=b Libertad: http://www.libertad.de/ Lysekyl Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://w1.523.telia.com/%7Eu52306189/samlatpalestina.html London Initiative struggle against Jewish Dominance: http://www.stopwar.org.uk/ Los Angeles Labor Bureau of Communist Party: http://cpusa.org/article/archive/0/20 Los Angeles Working Class fight back the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.answerla.org/ Madrid Solidarity against Jewish Fascism: http://www.nodo50.org/csca/ Mafia BERLUSCONI-MUSSOLINI Bastard serves for second Godfafther Butcher SHARON: http://www.gagarama.de/satire/berlusconi-europopopeo.htm Malta-Vanetta's grafitti activists struggle against the Jewish dominance&Zionist Imperialism: http://www.movimentgraffitti.org/ Manipulation around terrorism is the contemporary face of Big Brother: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/wtc.htm Masonry Watch: http://www.freemasonwatch.freepress-freespeech.com/bnaibrith.html Massacres of the Zionist Occupational Gang, (Z.O.G.): http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/2367/massacre.html (pissed off by Yahoo stafff; also, Yahoo=Yahoodi) E-post: MaSeeHi@bigfoot.com Massacre Responsible Nucleo-armed Mafia Z.O.Gang: http://216.230.204.167/islam/non-muslims/Israel/occupation.htm Media lies: http://medialies.com/ Meister ECKEHARDT (discrimined Jurist of Scandinavia) informs against judaized Imperialism: http://www.den-svenske.com/michel_friedman.htm Mexican delegation against Jewish occupation: http://www.palestina.com.mx/ Melbourna Activists struggle against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.vicpeace.org/ Militarist Barbarity modenized instead of modernized civilization: http://www.comdsd.org/links.htm Militarized Mafia's systematical terrorism: http://www.skrewdriver.org.uk/terror.html Montreal-Canada Federation Info against Imperialism: http://www.fiiq.qc.ca/ Most wanted terrorists: http://abbc.com/bush/ My Lai Massacre 1968 http://www.pathfinder.com/photo/essay/mylai/mylaihp.htm http://www.pathfinder.com/photo/essay/mylai/mylaicon.htm http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/Myl_intro.html http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/mylai.htm http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/vietnam/trenches/mylai.html http://www.jurist.law.pitt.edu/trials3.htm Media Watch org.: http://www.pmwatch.org/ http://64.226.129.19/pmw/index.asp MERIP org.: http://www.MERIP..org/ Middle East Facts: http://www.mideastfacts.com/ Mideast Chamber org.: http://www.mideastchamber.com/ Miftah org.: http://www.miftah.org/Forum.cfm http://www.miftah.org/guestbook/gbook.cfm M. S.'s Che page: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/4212/che_guevara.html http://www.lpage.com/wgb/wgbview.dbm?owner=chguevara E-post: moud@hotmail.com, MultiCruelity of Jewish Barbarity: http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/ Museum of Jewish Crimes against Humanity: http://vanguardnewsnetwork.com/archives/newsArchives.asp?category=11 Music Activists (Sniper Records&Tor's Vrede) against the Zionist dominance on Culture: (downloading is easy and free!.. Try it just now, enjoy yourself!) http://www.sniper-records.net/torsvrede/e_index.htm http://pub.alxnet.com/guestbook?id=2495619 http://pub.alxnet.com/guestbook?id=2389626 NATO; a military toy of the zionized Imperialism: http://www.sramota.com/nato/ Natvan demasked the Zion fraud: http://www.natvan.com/who-rules-america/ Neglected Stories of the dismissed writers&discriminated artists: http://www.hermes-press.com/NN1.htm Net Activist: http://www.dkp-ml.dk/netactivist/index2.htm News from reality: http://www.hereinreality.com/carlyle.html News, suppressed: http://holywar.org/suppress.htm New Yorkers against Jew York Terrorism: http://www.unitedforpeace.org/ New Zealand Initiative agaisnt the judaized Imperialism: http://www.converge.org.nz/pma/ NileMedia: http://www.nilemedia.com/ http://www.nilemedia.com/Home/contact.html NoMoreBuSHIT: http://www.nomorebushit.net/oralmajorityonline/index.htm Norrköping city Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://norrkopingmotkrig.webbsida.com/ Norway Defence Humanbeing against Jewish Fascism: http://www.palestina.no/nyweb/ Norway Solidarity Committees: http://www.palestinakomiteen.no/hit.php?Go=alquds1 Occupation Cartoons: http://www.baha-cartoon.net/occu/occup.htm Oli-fever costs your future: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=5054&mode=nested&order=0 Opinions&Expressions banned by Zions? Send it us, we Free Speech Group expose it and combat the Jewish Imperialism http://www.ruf-ch.org/ http://www.ruf-ch.org/Leser.html 0 Organized crime-a bloody exposition: http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85819409/altinfo/Bilder/ Oslo is already ready to combat the Jewish Lobbies: http://www.ingenkrig.no/ Östersund city Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.stoppakriget.webhop.net/ Palestine campaign: www.Palestinecampaign.org/ E-post: info@palestinecampaign.org Palestine Center: http://www.PalestineCenter.org/ Palestine chronicle: http://www.palestinechronicle.com/ Palestine Return Center: http://www.prc.org.uk/ Palestinian Initiative for the Promotion of Global Dialogue and Democracy http://www.Miftah.org/ Palestinian Solidarity org. in Finlandia: http://www.palestinegd.fi/links1.htm Pancyprian for Human Rights-Int. Current News&Info Center: http://members.spree.com/stelios/4index/full/missing.html http://members.spree.com/stelios/main/main.htm http://members.spree.com/stelios/hr06/derynia.htm E-post: THEOCY@cytanet.com.cy, Passia Bulletin: http://www.passia.org/index_bulletin.html http://www.passia.org/guestbook.htm Passion to own marks: http://www.cactus48.com/passion.html Peace turned to Jheese: http://www.gagarama.de/bush-praesident-specials/royals_s.htm PetitionOnline http://www.PetitionOnline.com/palpet/petition.html Philippines Militants struggle against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.bayanorg.pilnet.com/ Planet, Palestinian Academicians org.: http://www.planet.edu/he.shtml Plata Girón's Che composition: http://che.playagiron.org/ PNA, Palestinian Government: http://www.pna.net/ Palestinian Restitution and Reparation (CPRR). Council&Petition for refugee rights of return: http://rightofreturn.org/be-active/petition Palestinian Diaspora and Refugee Center - Shaml: http://www.shaml.org/ Palestine Remembered. http://www.PalestineRemembered.com/ Palestine Times monthly: http://www.ptimes.org/ Peace Movement Aotearo http://www.apc.org.nz/pma/ PetitionOnline against War Crimes: http://www.petitiononline.com/warcrime/ Petroleum giants suck the blood of Nigerian people: http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85819409/altinfo/goil0004m.gif Philosophie http://www.philosophie.org Police Brutality: http://www.october22.org/ http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/0011/14/peter.html Polonia; Niet Okupacja!.. http://www.orient.art.pl/ Polonia&Palestyna: http://viva.palestyna.pl/news/news.php?news=032003/170320032.php Prag Activists against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.mujweb.cz/www/irak/ Prison of David Stern rounded human being: http://images.ucomics.com/comics/ta/2003/ta030731.gif PTB - International: http://www.ptb.be/international/indexen.html Puerto Rican independentista movement: http://www.redbetances.com/ Puerto Rican political prisoners: http://www.wco.com/~boricua/POWS/ Puerto Rico resistance movement: http://www.viequeslibre.org/ Push Bush-push BLiar-push Bush-push BLiar! http://www.gagarama.de/bush-praesident-specials/bush-blubt-blair.htm Racism exposed: http://w1.858.telia.com/~u85819409/altinfo/rasism.htm Racist Nature of Zionism: http://codoh.com/zionweb/ziondark/zionracdex.html Protest net: http://www.protest.net/ Qana Massacre: http://members.terra.net.lb/buddy/qana/massacre.html Radio FS-Internetional; listen to the Free Speech Internet Radio: http://www.fsrn.org/news/ Real player basic is enough to listen (or read) the Radio FS worldwide, now!.. Remains Ethnical Cleansing: http://www.allthatremains.com/index.html Resistance diaries: http://www.iacenter.org/palestinian_resist.htm Revolutionaries from Scandinavia demand; "Stop the persecution process on the revolutionary&antiimperialist demonstranters&Laponians!": http://www.revolusjon.no/ http://home.online.no/~steinhol/internasj/english/english.html http://www.boikottisrael.no/eindex.html RSP, Irish Republican Socialist Movement: http://irsm.org/irsm.html Russian Granata against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.russgranata.com/ Relativity theorie on the relations of blood and profites: http://www.opensecrets.org/2000elect/index/AllCands.htm SANA, Syrian Arab News Agency: http://www.sana.org/english/En-Images/israeli_terrorism.htm http://www.sana.org/english/En-Images/israeli_terrorism.htm Santa Talmudian Pedophile Bastards exposed by Germanian Comrades: http://www.gagarama.de/ Scandinavian CivilCourage Network Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://ageramotkriget.olydiga.net/ Scandinavian Forum: http://www.palestinagrupperna.a.se/forum.htm Scandinavian Students Initiative supports Palestine&Laponia against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.elevermotkrig.nu/ Scotland&Deir Yassin solidarity: http://www.deiryassin.org/scotland.html Scotland-Glasgow Activists still fu'king judaized Bastard Tory BLiar: http://www.banthebomb.org/news/2002/Sep/15feb.shtml See on the Sea&around the Sea how they suck people's red blood what USrael aims: http://www.seeingred.com/# Selected Sites of Vietnam Veterans: http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/org/links.html Serbian Defence against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.compuserb.com/sdl/ http://serbiandefenseleague.com/ Set free Freedom Fighter Abdullah OCALAN: http://www.bolshevik.org/Leaflets/ocalan.html Set free the Five Cubanos: http://www.freethefive.org/ Set free Hussam KADER and all Palestinian prisoners: http://www.hussamkhader.com/english/default.html Set free Indian Poet Leonard PELTIERI: http://www.eandgcomputers.com/peacepipe/media/leonardpeltier/index.htm Set free Jonathan POLLARD: http://www.jonathanpollard.org/ Set free Marwan BARGHOUTI: http://www.freebarghouti.org/ Set free Nuclear Weapon Whistler Comrade Mordechai VANUNU: http://www.vanunu.freeserve.co.uk/ Set free Mumia ABU-JAMAL: http://www.millions4mumia.org/ Set free "Black Panther" Revolutionary HUEY: http://xroads.virginia.edu/~UG01/barillari/pantherchap2.html Set free Osmo VALLO's brothers and all other innocent Gypsies in Sweden=stop such second USrael process in the EU: http://www.socialpolitik.com/gamlanummer/arkiv1996/961/96108.html http://www.connection.se/HyperNews/get/od/chock/16.html Set free the Freedom Fighter Ulla Roder! http://www.tmfife.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/ulla/ullastory.shtml Set free the Free Speech Fighter Ernst ZÜNDEL: http://www.zundelsite.org/ Set Free Slobodan MILOSEVIC: http://www.icdsm.org/ Shadow United Nations: http://home.wanadoo.nl/shadowun/ Silenced Voices' org.: http://www.dfn.org/ Socialist Worker: http://www.labournet.org.uk/so/47boycottisrael.html SolidarityCom.: http://www.solidaritydesign.com/ Solidarity movement: http://www.palsolidarity.org/ Sombrero-homepage http://welcome.to/sombrero Stop the "Preventing of Work Rights" of Anti-Fascists, like the case of antisemite revolutionary&antiimperialist demonstrant Stefan Dimiter TCHOLAKOV and isolated Laponian Jouko JOKINEN: http://www.uni-klu.ac.at/~gossimit/phorum/list.php?f=7 http://web.domaindlx.com/choli/Links1.asp http://on.starblvd.net/meet/Entertainment/TV_Shows/dbzelite/ Stop-Fascism: http://www.stop-fascism.org/zionist_fascism.htm Stop the "Registration process of opinion"=democratical masked cleansing on the intellectuals who struggle against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.blaskan.nu/Blaskan/Nummer6/Artiklar/asiktsregistrering.html http://www.tfrebell.se/nyb3-02-19dec.shtml http://www.kommentar.org/sidor/2001/Div/Upprop_mot_reg.html SAEPO (Säpo), Scandinavia's most corrupted, manipulated, Jew controlled marionettes, security falsificators exposed by Anders SVENSSON: http://www.zaramis.nu/net/us/artiklar/sapo.html http://www.proletaren.se/Proletaren/Prolarkiv/Proletaren0306/Pro0306vi.html Spania-Barcelona Activists against the judaized Imperialism: http://www.noalaguerra.org/ Spania Antorcha Marxist Leninista against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.antorcha.org Speak Truth, so you can be stronger against Barbarity: http://www.speaktruthtopower.org/index_main.html E-post: info@rfkmemorial.org "U.N.-Racism Conference 2001 and U.S.-Model zionistical hypocrisy" E-post: info@umbragebooks.com Sri Lanka against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.jvpnet.com/ STOP AID to the Fascist Z.O.Gangs !: http://www.stopaidtoisrael.com/ Stop Torture (Warning: Mo$$ad's new face Shin Beth Assassination Gang etc are available to read and manipulate all the messages, specially on such Human Rights NGOs...Mo$$ad uses cookies on Internet..) http://www.geocities.com/STOP_TORTURE/ E-post: pcati@netvision.net.il Sydney Initiative against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.cpa.org.au/campaign/anti-war.html Tahrir daily news: http://news.tahrir.net/cgi-bin/daily/daily.pl?article1=1817 Tari Research Institute.: http://www.tari.org/ http://www.guestbookdepot.com/cgi-bin/sign_book.cgi?book_id=94841 Webmaster; Louay AL JONDI; e-post: laljondi@hotmail.com Terror Alerts were the simple traditionally lies of the judaized Imperialism: http://www.etherzone.com/2003/wats021703.shtml Terrorism is the origin of USrael: http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/irae-j21.shtml http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/isr2-j23.shtml Testimonies of the survivors of Zionist Ritual Abuse; evidences on a Scandinavian sect of neo-Zionist criminals who suspects of Incest; this Jewish sect still recruits the criminal clan members from occupied Middle East: http://www.hotboards.com/guestbooks/book.cgi?who=rahome Toronto-Canada Activists against Jewish Fascism: http://www.tcaswi.org/ True Holocaust what HITLER never did, but the Jews: http://www.aztlan.net/holocoust.htm Tupac Amaru's Revolutionary Marxist Movement (MRTA). http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/mrta/ Tv-Internetional; Anti-Imperialist news on the Free Speech tv Rami: http://rami.tv/ Ukrainian People against the Jewish Disinformation: http://www.ukar.org/defe.shtml U.N.-Embassies of Palestine: http://www.palestine-un.org/ U.N./Palestine Observators: http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF?OpenDatabase U.N./Relief to Palestine: http://www.un.org/unrwa/ U.S.-Appeal: http://www.sustain-campaign.org/ Vancouver-Canada&Rafah-Palestine solidarity: http://ender.indymedia.org/ism-vancouver/ Vietnam Veterans: http://www.oz.net/~vvawai/index.html Violations of International Law&ICJ authorities (!!!) didn't react:: http://this.is/jenin/ http://www.palestinemonitor.org/gallery/special_focus_jenin.htm http://www.palestinemonitor.org/Feature/un__reveals_monumental_destruction.htm The Waco Massacre: http://serendipity.magnet.ch/waco.html WAFA News Bureau: http://www.wafa.pna.net/EngText/IndexE.htm War crimes: http://www.deoxy.org/wc/wc-index.htm War profiteers: http://www.warprofiteers.com/ What Really Happened: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ Where is the Plane, Flight 77?! http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flight77.htm http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm Wilhelm TELL against the Zionist Imperialism: http://www.ety.com/tell/intnlsection.htm Women's centre: http://www.wclac.org/stories/jenin/Buried%20Alive.html Women's Peace initiative: http://www.womenspeacepalestine.org/incidentreports.htm Workers' Party of Belgique, W.P.B.: http://www.wpb.be/icm.htm Workers Party of Iralandia: http://www.workers-party.org/wphome.htm E-post: info@workers-party.org Workers' World http://www.workers.org/ World Organization against Torture: http://www.omct.org/ E-post: omct@omct.org WSWS, World Socialist Web Site http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/sep2001/isra-s01.shtml http://users.cgiforme.com/socialistica/cfmboard.html Yilmaz GÜNEY Forums: http://www.yilmazguney.com/haberler/political_news.htm http://www.yilmazguney.com/forums/_disc2/00000012.htm http://www.yilmazguney.com/forums/_disc2/0000000d.htm http://www.yilmazguney.com/Guest/mesaj_sayfasi.htm Zionist Barbarity: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/7891/index_zion1.html http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/7891/feedback_form.html http://www.MidEastFacts.com Site&Brand New Infos about the Massacres and Collaboration acts& Z.O.Gang's CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY (International rules, Palestinian Law and Punishment source). http://www.phrmg.org/english/Collaborators/Collaborators.htm 11 September 2001 caused by armed Mafia USrael: http://www.davidduke.com/writings/howisraeliterror.shtml That's all Folks!.. This is an alphabetical/selected portals list for all Good People around Planet Earth who are anti-War, anti-Imperialist, anti-Racist., anti-Zionist and anti-Fascist; who want to Fight Back and build together a Better World and this work is a tribute to Revolutionary Comrade Carlo GIULIANI ....and remember what Comrade Ernesto CHE GUEVARA says: "If you tremble with indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine!" Mirror links and main reason to create the mirror pages: The amerojudaized Corporate Mafia Gangs and its lackeys in the Z.O.Gangs definitely want to shut down the Anti-Fascist sites! Here are some mirror sites if you can't get through to the one above and you find the useful sources&informative supporters of all above sites: Amateur plot on 9/11 and plenty of evidences that may hang George WCmouth Bush: http://web11.superb.net/www.nodomain.com/ American Free Press: http://www.americanfreepress.net/ BusssSH'T flash: http://www.ericblumrich.com/ Buying of the president: http://www.bop2004.org/dtaweb/bop2004/ Documentazione sull'infiltrazione dei nemici nella Chiesa: http://www.marcel-lefebvre-tam.com/ Daily Catholic: http://www.dailycatholic.org/ Fair: http://www.fair.org/international/iraq.html Global search: http://globalresearch.ca/ IA Centre: http://www.iacenter.org/ Information Clearing House: http://members.cox.net/informationclearinghouse/article1008.htm Italiana-Al Jaziree: http://www.aljazira.it/ Il "mazzo di carte" del regime di Bush: http://it.geocities.com/comedonchisciotte/immagini/carte2.html Israel Shamir criticizes military Mafia USrael: http://www.israelshamir.net/ Jewish domination of the diamond business: http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap8.htm Lega contro gli espianti di organi vitali a cuor battente: http://www.antipredazione.org Liberate America from Israel: http://www.intellex.com/~rigs/index.htm Liberty instead of Jewish Neo-Liberal Fascism: http://www.sweetliberty.org/ Le jeu de cartes du régime Bush: http://www.reseauvoltaire.net/jeudecartes.html Mass Destruction of Iraq: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Senate/7891/index_iraq.html Marx against Zionist Imperialism: http://www.rcgfrfi.easynet.co.uk/marxism/articles/ http://www.rcgfrfi.easynet.co.uk/marxism/articles/f134-ime.htm Messaggi subliminali: http://digilander.iol.it/subliminale MideastFacts: http://www.mideastfacts.com NO WAR for military Mafia USrael!..: http://www.nowarforisrael.com Opium Lords: http://www.jfkmontreal.com/home.htm People's Investigation of 9/11: http://www.911pi.com Politicalgraveyard http://www.politicalgraveyard.com/ PR Watch: http://www.prwatch.org/ Propaganda Matrix: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/whitewash.html Public action exposes WACO-Massacre: http://www.public-action.com Piss off the militarized Fascist Mafia USrael! http://www.nkusa.org/images/flag-ani.gif Real Terrorism-Massacre portal: http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/ Perpetual War Portfolio: http://www.rationalenquirer.org/features/portfolio/ Racist Jewish High Priests of Globalisation: http://www.bilderberg.org/ Reclaim the media: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/flash.html/ Sinn Fein: http://www.sinnfein.ie/ Stop us military aid to israel: http://www.stop-us-military-aid-to-israel.net/ Third World research: http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/index.html Tv GlobalFire: http://www.globalfire.tv/nj/03en/politics/crimesvsculture.htm Tradizione e Comunità: http://www.adsum.it TransnaZionale: http://www.transnationale.org/etn.htm Ukrainian Archive exposes the judaized Imperialist Barbarity: http://www.ukar.org/asper/asper01.html http://www.ukar.org/ U.S Financial Aid To Israel: http://www.wrmea.com/html/us_aid_to_israel.htm USrael=Fascist State Terrorism: http://www.israel-state-terrorism.org Una Storia Segreta : http://www.io.com/%7Esegreta/index.html USS Liberty: http://www.ussliberty.org Israel is losing, because the Lie-Imperium of the Jews has no future: http://www.bushwatch.com/comment.htm Journalists who always been censored: http://www.gregpalast.com/ Neglected Stories of the dismissed writers&discriminated artists: http://www.hermes-press.com/NN1.htm Terror Alerts were the simply traditionally lies of the judaized Imperialism: http://www.etherzone.com/2003/wats021703.shtml World Socialist Organization exposes US is simply pet of Zionism: http://www.wsws.org/sections/category/news/na-milit.shtml http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/sep2001/isra-s01.shtml World Messenger: http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/index.html Don't forget this foto, imperialist barbarity///CHILDREN SHALL OVERCOME!.. http://zog.to/3/tour/MansourAbu.htm



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10/15/03 12:55:47 GMT
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10/12/03 10:31:12 GMT
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10/09/03 03:16:04 GMT
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10/04/03 20:16:48 GMT
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10/04/03 01:45:13 GMT
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Nice, cool, with relevant information to my problem, website. Enjoyed browsing and found most of your web pages interesting. Keep On Rockin, Brian



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